| Date: | May 31, 2007 / year-entry #195 |
| Tags: | non-computer |
| Orig Link: | https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20070531-01/?p=26613 |
| Comments: | 14 |
| Summary: | Strange what sorts of things need to be spelled out explicitly nowadays. You know you're in trouble when your employee training includes a discussion of company policy regarding employees making inappropriate comments or questions about underwear. |
Strange what sorts of things need to be spelled out explicitly nowadays. You know you're in trouble when your employee training includes a discussion of company policy regarding employees making inappropriate comments or questions about underwear. |
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who did that presentation, sexual harassment panda? :)
Nicole seems to be obsessed with underwear, she wrote about http://www.womenofuw.com/ as well here:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003721501_brodeur25m.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003718419_calendar23m.html
I can’t help but wonder what would women complain about if all men suddenly started to ignore their sexuality completely?
the more icky part is that someone can be a vice president of a company and happily state (allegedly) that he "did not like women" and call women who’s jobs he’d (allegedly) threatened "[expletive] terrorists".
dealing with customers who comment on your underwear? That’s a standard female skill in the patriarchy – most girls have mastered that one by the age of 10 yrs.
My company had mandatory compliance training because of some lawsuit and while most of the sessions were on business transactions, one of them was on employee conduct. So in the training there was a question that was something like "Ann wears tight and low-cut clothing to work with a thong and one day Mark says ‘Hey, that’s a sexy thong you have on’. Ann felt uncomfortable at Mark’s comment." The question to us employees was obviously to decide whether Mark’s comment was inappropriate for the workplace.
Turns out it was not inappropriate. It was apparently her fault for dressing sexy. Who knew?
(I’m assuming that the compliance training approached the question from a legal standpoint, and there’s probably legal precedent saying that his comment wasn’t inappropriate, but I don’t know for sure)
Of course it was not inappropriate — he was addressing thong rather then her. On the other hand, if he said "Hey, you look sexy in that thong"…
I thought Thong was the Vietnamese guy standing next to Ann?
The patriarchy? Uh-oh, here comes the humorlessness brigade.
I liked this quote from the article:
"Even the fries are listed on the menu as "skinny.""
I never heard of anybody getting offended by thin-cut fries before… We call them "shoe-string chips" in Australia, parhaps in an attempt to be politically correct?
dean, no we do not call them that here.
i have never heard that term.
> "Ann wears tight and low-cut clothing to work with a thong and one day Mark says ‘Hey, that’s a sexy thong you have on’. Ann felt uncomfortable at Mark’s comment."
Ann knows very well that exposing her underwear to the world is an act of "trolling". Anyone who fishes understands that you will make a lot of casts before you catch something that you want in your boat. There’s really no sense being mad *at the fish* if your lure caught its attention and reacts. Either don’t troll, or don’t whine about what you catch while trolling; you can’t have it both ways.
Last year there was a discussion in the MFC newsgroup about an odd observation that suddenly better results were coming from using MSDN to search MSDN than from using Google to search MSDN. One of the subthreads tangented off into other search subjects, someone observed that the most common search was for panties, and someone else said that panties are on-topic.
How boring.
Well, now this adult-rated blog[*] solves the issue. Panties are off-limits.
Off is better than on, indeed.
Nitpicker’s corner:
* Yes this is a footnote marker. No I’m too lazy to search for the article in this blog that observed that some judgement site had assigned this blog an adult rating.
Igor, I wonder what the world would be like if all women started to really push comments about men’s sexuality and appearance. :)
Being too sexy in the workplace is distracting. But I don’t think anyone has ever actually said anything to me about it.